I went to the hearing on Richard Allen and his defense team yesterday at the Allen County Courthouse in Fort Wayne, Indiana.
I wanted to see for myself because I knew that the media was not covering this as journalists should. Attorney Baldwin pretty much stated this when he got in their faces and told them to do actual journalism.
After what I saw and heard, I have to agree.
First, I’ll list who was there: Both Defense attorneys, Mr. Baldwin and Mr. Rozzi (pronounced Rose ee), Prosecutor McLeland, his assistant, a woman attorney (don’t know her name), ISP Superintendent Doug Carter, Sgt. Holman, Sheriff Tobe Leazenby, Mike and Becky Patty, Carrie Timmons (Liberty’s mother), the two individuals from Murder Sheet, and of course, Richard Allen, who was accompanied by the same LE in green that you see on the news reports. Big beefy guys. I’m not sure if they are Marshals, but I presume so.
As Richard Allen is escorted into the courtroom after a break, the big beefy black dude is towering over him. I’m thinking….is it really possible that Allen, who is short and not that muscular, could have overpowered the two girls? Libby was not a small girl and the reports are that she fought like hell, getting DNA under her fingernails.
It just doesn’t appear that Allen could have done this by himself. And personally, I don’t think he participated in it. I think he knew that the girls were being taken, but I don’t get the feeling that he knew what was going to happen to them.
So now the prosecution is trying to charge him with murder for knowing that the girls were kidnapped.
But the State has not filed charges against anyone else. It would stand to reason if the State has evidence that Allen knew they were being kidnapped, then they would know WHO kidnapped them and WHO did the ritual sacrifice. Because by this new filing, the State has pretty much said that Allen was an accessory, but not the actual killer. Just my take on it.
So, I will go over my notes from yesterday to explain what went on. Please know that acoustics in the courtroom are horrible. I had difficulty hearing names properly, so I beg forgiveness if I get names wrong.
When I arrived, for the 2:00 p.m. hearing, they were still going on the first hearing, to address the court’s contempt charge against the defense team for the leaks.
So I have just bits and pieces of that hearing:
- Steve Wood, a witness, was testifying that he knew a person named Beaudette, going as fig.solves on youtube. fig.solves had access to a documentary by Hannah Shakespeare, a journalist from California, who really showed the shoddy work of Carroll County Law Enforcement. [She interviewed witnesses that bravely came forward with what they knew. She stood up to Tobe Leazenby by asking why his department did not interview Carrie Timmons, Liberty’s mother. If I recall correctly, Leazenby gave a lame answer that Carrie had a drug problem, etc., and she was estranged from Liberty, which was not true. Carrie had spoken to Liberty the very morning of that horrible day. An officer seeking the truth and doing a thorough job would have recognized Carrie might have valuable information related to who she was talking to online or her plans for the day, or any number of clues to help solve her case.] [This documentary is on youtube, but has been marked to private. Hopefully, they will take off the block so everyone can view it again.]
- Attorney Baldwin was interviewing Steve Wood about the docs that were released to the public. He was not speaking very loudly, and I was in the back of the room, but a bit I got was: there were 2 versions of the leaked documents, a 2.0 and another version released in June.
- Judge Frances Gull said attorney Baldwin was not showing evidence by the witness testimony. She dismissed the testimony.
- “______” Collins, a witness, testified there were “several” “20-25” hard drives given to him.
- Sgt. Holman, ISP, testified that Agent Coleman sent them to Ainya Cain and Kevin Green, of Murder Sheet on youtube.
- Defense Attorney Baldwin said that others had leaked the Probable Cause Affidavit to Murder Sheet, not Baldwin’s office. He made the point that the leak to Murder Sheet was not held in contempt by the judge as the defense team for leaks they personally did not authorize and did not know had occurred until after the fact.
- Brad Rozzi, the Defense attorney, was put on the witness stand. He was asked about the Dec. 1 press release. His response was: “It communicates to your client that you are behind them.” and “from the very day that I entered into the case, we were inundated from requests from the media”
- Questions to Rozzi: Was it to influence the public? Answer: “No” Was it a plea from the public for tips? Answer: “Yes.”
- Rozzi was asked if he had any knowledge of ISP? He replied that he has a family member that is a detective for the Indiana State Police. He was questioned about an email from Woodhouse. Question: Did you have anything to do with the Woodhouse email? Answer: “No, I did not.” Rozzi went on to say “Baldwin called me on the day he learned of the email disclosing pictures. He went on to say that the defense team did not receive 2-3 pictures or diagrams of some of the prosecutor’s evidence. Further in the hearing, Baldwin stated that the defense team were not made aware of missing interview videos that had been erased in February 2017. More on that later.
- Rozzi was questioned: Did you watch the Barbara McDonald segment on CourtTV? Answer: “yes”.
- Prosecutor objected.
- Question: Was this evidence you provided? Rozzi answered, “It was not provided by me.”
- Rozzi was questioned by Prosecutor McLeland: Did you know Westerman? Rozzi denied knowing Westerman and he said he would not know him if he was here in the courtroom.
Next comes the real eye-opening testimony by Tod Click, a parole agent with the State of Indiana. he was a former police officer and assisted on the Delphi case for the FBI task force. He was on the investigation team for roughly three years, from 2018 until 2021. He stopped when Detective Greg Forency of the Terre Haute police department, was murdered in front of FBI’s office.
The interference of information in this case is over the top, as I was trying to find the videotape of the news conference of Det. Forency’s murder. Special Agent Keenan, who was at the presser and was involved in the Delphi murder investigation, spoke about Det. Forency’s help. But now the video has been “disappeared”. I mean, it was there just an hour ago, and now I can’t find it at all. I can’t find ANY mention of Forency. I also had his funeral service as well, now there is nothing. POOF. disappeared.
From Todd Click’s testimony, Detective Forency had been investigating Brad Holder and Patrick Westfall. They were pictured together with T-shirts with “Redlander” on them. I’m not sure that I heard that correctly, however, and doing a quick google search, I could find nothing.
Click testified that it was depicting Norse membership. Others that were involved were: John Messer, who was standing between Brad Holder and Westfall in the picture.
The girlfriend of one of them (sorry, don’t have which one), knew of videos of girls being kidnapped.
Det. Forency and Murphy were going to get search warrants, but Click was not able to get with Forency.
Two others, named Elvis Fields and Josh Crispin, were members of the American Guard — connected to a MAGA rally, and then to a house party. Brian James was head of the American Guard. He made deliveries of hogs to Delphi and Logansport processing plants.
I missed part of the following, but the bits I have are: pictures of stiff in different arrangements and the connection to Brad Holder.
In February 2018, Holman and Murphy interviewed Elvis Fields at his house and he said “if her scent is on me, you’ll know why.” I was not sure which girl he was referring to or what he meant by “scent on me”. Perhaps he meant DNA?
When Det. Forency was shot and killed, Click’s work in the investigation ended. He had drafted a letter sent by certified mail to Prosecutor Nick McLeland, to make him aware of his investigation and evidence. He sent this on April 28th, but did not hear anything until AUGUST 2023.
Click met with ISP Sgt Holman and gave all his data to Holman, along with a brief summary. Holman did not seem interested in the materials.
Click testified that Det. Forency and Murphy both believed STRONGLY that Holder and Fields were connected to the murder of Abigail Williams and Liberty German.
After meeting with Sgt. Holman, Click began to leave and saw Brad Holder sitting in the ISP lobby!!!
After this meeting, Click testified that he had no further follow up with Sgt. Holman.
Alecia Cole, a girlfriend of Johnny Messer, reported to Todd Click that she had a phone he might want to see, indicating there was evidence on it pertaining to the murders.
It was called the “goldilocks” cellphone. Click did not elaborate what he meant by “goldilocks”.
Click informed Sgt. Holman, and he said ISP would obtain the cellphone. Two weeks later, Click inquired about it, and ISP had not retrieved the cellphone. Someone else from another agency, I think, eventually got the cellphone.
Click was asked about the technology to recover data from cellphones.
Judge Gull said the Holder/Messer evidence was not applicable. (Stunning!!)
Defense Attorney Baldwin made the point that they were not given evidence for 10 months after they should have been provided it.
Prosecutor asked —
Question: Did you give evidence to the authorities?
Answer: I gave it to Detective Forency.
Question: How long have you known Elvis Fields?
Answer: I have known Fields a long time. (missed part of the testimony) I don’t know if Elvis Fields has been diagnosed of showing mental disability or slowness. (I’m paraphrasing here).
Click was told that Holder stated “it was a ritual gone bad”
Baldwin called Amber Holder to the witness stand.
Question: Did you talk to police?
Answer: Yes, for an hour interview during the time of the girls’ murder investigation. August 2023, Amber was not contacted. She testified that Holder and Westfall had done animal sacrifices in the woods. She stated “the girls were posed with runes in the forms of sticks. And Holder and Westfall knew the girls.
At this point, Judge Gull called counsel to her and would not allow Amber Holder’s testimony.
The state called Stephen Mullin to the stand. He testified that he was an investigator. Previously, he was the Chief of Police of Delphi in 2017, and then joined the sheriff’s department, and then began private investigation work for the evidence of Richard Allen in preparation for the trial.
Question: Were you aware of the Brad Holder interview of 2017?
Answer: I am. It was done in February, 2017. As chief of police, I was not part of the investigation.
(I missed part of the testimony, but Mullin said “that report should have been submitted”
He was shown a screenshot of the Feb. 2017 dispersal of evidence with 5 excel docs of data contained on hard drive, including FBI docs.
Prosecutor asked Mullin to describe Special Agent Cole’s interview of Brad Holder no longer being available.
Answer: “We use a specific room and use computers and equipment of video interviews. In August 2017, we went to recover video on the DVR, but it was on a continuous record, so all interviews up to that date were gone.”
“Somehow it was switched from only recording when turned on to record continuously.”
When asked about the equipment, Mullin stated “The switch is visible when one walked into the police station. There was a blue light visible that would show it was recording. It was not on.”
Question: Was there additional follow-up with Brad Holder?
Answer: Yes. FBI Rich Davies report assisted by Fred Rogers.
Question: Is it considered completed?
Answer: Yes.
Question: Was Holder a key suspect?
Answer: No.
Question: Was Patrick Westfall interviewed?
Answer: Yes in the FBI report of 2/19/17. He was interviewed by Special Agent Adam Cole. They went to the Westfall residence. The FBI does not record interviews.
Question: Was Patrick Westfall a key suspect?
Answer: No.
Question: Do you have a way of producing a list of all those interviewed?
Answer: I do not. We have shared everything we have with the defense team. ISP recently recovered some interviews and was turned over by Matthew Harper of ISP.
Defense Attorney Baldwin asked him:
Question: You did not tell myself and attorney Brad Rozzi about the missing interviews?
Answer: No. I told _____. (I could not hear who he told)
Question: Did you tell McLeland about the missing interviews?
Answer: Yes.
Question: The defense team did not learn about the interviews being taped over until February, 2024, correct?
Answer: Yes.
Baldwin questions Mullin about documents the defense team was given. He stated there were no dates on the docs.
Question: When were these documents produced?
Answer: February 2017.
Baldwin made the statement that the defense team did not receive notification of the documents until two weeks before the hearing.
Question: Did you get another interview of Brad Holder once you discovered the first video interview was missing?
Answer: No.
Question: Is there any document or log of all those interviews (of February 2017)?
Answer: No.
Baldwin then stated “So there were six days of missing interviews.”
Baldwin stated “from April 28th to June 30, there was an opportunity to get those interviews recovered from Chinese software. Was this utilized?
Answer: No. Some video was recovered, but not the audio.
Question: Early on, there were many tips about Brad Holder?
Answer: A few.
Question: Early on, you really don’t know what information will be important to an investigation, do you?
Answer: No.
Baldwin tried to question whether Brad Holder switched vehicles with a family member that day of the murders, but the prosecution objected and the judge sustained the objection, which means the attorney is not allowed to ask the question.
At this point, about 6 p.m., I decided to leave, so I don’t know what was said after this.
But the information on Brad Holder is jaw-dropping. And the fact that the media is complicit in not telling the public this guy’s name when he most certainly had something to do with the girls’ murder is beyond me.
And the judge not allowing Amber Holder to testify is another red flag that something is very wrong.
But the most important clue of a conspiracy of corruption is Detective Forency being murdered, right in front of the FBI offices. He was on the trail of Holder and Westfall and was taken out.
Now is the time for all good men to come to the aid of Indiana.
This is the ultimate war between good and evil. And for those who know the truth but are afraid to speak out, your silence will not save you. You are a liability to the evil ones and they will take you out, as well.
God has made a promise to me and to the Indians that good would win over evil. BUT WE have to fight against the evil. We must.
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